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PVC is way more practical for renovations and lasts around 25-30 years no problem, as long as it's not exposed to direct sunlight. Copper lasts much longer and doesn't suffer from temperature changes, but it's way more expensive and it's a pain to install, plus you need soldering. For the kitchen, most people use PVC without any issues, it's cheaper, easy to work with later if you need to, and honestly it comes out to the same result in the long run if you do everything right.

In practice, the durability difference is real but not as dramatic as it seems. Copper lasts for decades even with direct sun and temperature swings, while PVC in an indoor environment (away from light) easily holds up for about 20-30 years too. The thing nobody really talks about much is that copper suffers with water that's too acidic or too alkaline depending on your region - it can develop holes from internal corrosion even though it's "indestructible". PVC is more predictable in that sense, it doesn't react with water. If your kitchen isn't going to turn into a wet sauna every day, PVC does the job perfectly fine and you'll have leftover cash to spend on other stuff in the renovation.

Are you planning to leave those pipes exposed or hide them inside the walls? Because that really changes the decision.

Looking at it practically, PVC does last for years, but here's the thing: it gets brittle over time if it's in direct sunlight or intense heat (like behind an old fridge that gets hot). Copper is practically indestructible - you see copper pipes in old mansions still working perfectly. The problem is the price is in a whole different ballpark, and you need someone who knows how to solder to install it properly. PVC is easier and cheaper labor-wise.

Here's something nobody mentions: mix the two as needed. Use copper only in the spots that really take a beating (fridge outlet, near the stove, really hot areas) and PVC for everything else. It costs less than pure copper, lasts longer than pure PVC, and you're not locked into one choice. In the kitchen especially, this mix makes sense because you've got zones that heat up and zones that don't.

For the kitchen specifically, what really matters is you don't use PVC in spots near the stove or where it might get direct heat - the material really suffers in that case and ages fast. If you've got the space to keep the pipes away from heat sources, PVC lasts easily 20-30 years and is way cheaper to install. Copper is more fireproof and genuinely more durable, but considering you're doing a kitchen renovation (something you don't do every year), properly installed PVC in an appropriate location gets the job done.

I've had to deal with this at home, and what I've learned in practice is that PVC works well enough, but people sometimes don't factor in the water pressure issue - if you've got high pressure in your system, PVC deteriorates faster over time than copper does. It's worth calling the utility company and finding out what the pressure is in your area before you decide, because that can speed up PVC aging a lot more than just time passing.

I swapped out the pipes in my house a few years ago and I found that copper isn't worth it for a regular kitchen, but I disagree with people who say PVC lasts 25-30 years without worry - it's more nuanced than that. The material itself doesn't age just from time passing, but rather when it's near heat sources (stove, hot water washing machine) or gets really hot water regularly, then it does get brittle. If you can keep the PVC away from those situations - like bringing cold water from the meter, without it passing near hot equipment - it'll run fine for quite a while. What's the exact route of those pipes in your kitchen, will they pass near the stove or the heat zone?

diego_vento asker They run through the wall behind the stove, but not directly in the heat. The washing machine is on the other side of the kitchen.

Copper can last over 50 years in a kitchen without any issues, while PVC typically goes about 25-30 years if you keep it away from heat. The real difference is that copper doesn't degrade with temperature or exposure, but in your case what really matters is keeping the PVC away from the stove - if you can get the pipes in a cool area (behind cabinets, inside the wall), honestly it lasts quite a while. Price ends up being the deciding factor for most people, because copper's extra durability sometimes doesn't make up for the much higher cost.

First thing: don't put PVC where there's direct heat, like near the stove or under a window where the sun hits all day long. That's what ages it fast. Now, inside walls or in internal piping away from thermal extremes, PVC honestly holds up really well - decades even. Copper is superior in resistance, of course, but the price makes a brutal difference in a renovation, and the truth is most kitchens don't need that extra durability if they're done sensibly.

I changed the pipes in my kitchen about 10 years ago and used PVC because it made more financial sense; the tubes are in a hidden corner behind the cabinets, far from any heat source. They're still perfect. But I know people who put it in places exposed to heat and then yeah, they started having problems with cracks and brittleness after a few years. The difference really is where you put it.

If your budget allows for copper, great - you won't have any regrets 20 or 30 years down the line. But if you have to go with PVC, as long as you avoid the hot spots and hide the tubes well, it'll work perfectly fine for a normal kitchen renovation.

One thing nobody really mentions is that compatibility with your existing plumbing matters a lot - if you've already got copper in there, mixing materials can create galvanic corrosion and cause problems down the road. If it's all new or all PVC, then you're good.

What nobody's really mentioning is that copper oxidizes and can stain all your kitchen water if you have low pH water - I've seen this happen at a friend's place and it was a mess to tear everything out. PVC even away from heat can develop microfractures over time if your water pressure is high or if there's a lot of movement in the piping, so before you decide it's worth calling a plumber, check what your water pressure is like and whether the pipes will stay in a stable spot. If your renovation is going to have everything embedded in the walls and the pressure is normal, PVC does the job; but if you want something that really won't give you problems 20 years down the line, copper is still safer despite the cost.

Copper is clearly superior if you want to forget about the problem for the next 50 years, but PVC works fine in the kitchen as long as you keep it away from heat - the real issue is that a lot of people put PVC near the stove and then it ages fast. If the pipes are going to be hidden in the wall and away from heat sources, PVC is a lot cheaper and you won't have headaches, just replace it again in a couple of decades if you need to. Now, if you want to do it once and forget about it, spend a little more and go with copper, which handles temperature swings no problem.

Don't put PVC in hot water pipes - that's the main thing people forget about. Copper is better if you've got the budget because it doesn't degrade over time or with temperature changes, but PVC in cold water (away from heat sources) works fine for 20-30 years, no problem. The real difference isn't that big if you know where to use each one; the mistake is thinking PVC is fragile by nature - it's fragile *if you heat it*, and that's what ages it quickly.

Are the pipes gonna be visible or are you planning to hide them in the wall? Because in my kitchen I did a renovation and kept everything embedded with PVC, and honestly it works just fine - it's been like 12 years now and zero problems, as long as you don't put a hot tube near the stove. Now, if you want something that really won't give you any headaches ever and you've got money to spare, copper is basically indestructible, but for a normal kitchen PVC does the job well when you respect that heat thing.

diego_vento asker They'll be embedded in the wall, away from the stove. Thanks for the tip about the heat, it really helped!

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